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February 19, 2010

India Supports Terror

Today several indian made IEDs were recovered in South Waziristan. IEDs are improvised explosive devices. Called "flowers" by taliban leaders, they are laid on a street or pathway and blow up when a poor civilan or a military personnel steps on them. But how are we so sure they are made by india? Well the IEDs recovered from a suspected militant base in South Waziristan have "Reliance Industries Ltd, Jamnagar, Gujrat, India" printed on them. How obvious can india be?!? Hopefully the army and our government takes advantage of this discovery and delivers the truth about india to the international community. Until then; shame on you india...shame on you!

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Anonymous said...: No offense, but you are in no position to say that India should be blamed. First of all, that could be easily faked to trick people. Especially when the credibility of things there is very low. Doesn't the Taliban use such weapons and instruments of destruction? Common, your title is BS. That does not mean India as a whole supports terrorism. You never know what the truth is. What about all the Mujahideens hiding in the mountains of Pakistan? Are they being supplied weaponry from India? Seriously, common.; February 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Captain said...: I am in the position to state it. The pakistani army has repeatedly stated in the public conferences that indian weapons have been found in both swat and south waziristan. What does that mean? That means that india is supporting the taliban inside of pakistan. The indian embassies in kabul and jalalabad are known to supply the miscreants with these weapons [as stated by former president pervez musharraf]. The 2 embassies noted above also have no business being there as there is barely any indians in those parts of afghanistan [you usually need a large sum of people in an area to have an embassy there]. Also, the suicide attacks in AJK don't make sense unless they are from india becuase the afghanistan wants kafirs out of the country so why in the world would they attack AJK cities? And the whole india does not support terror but the indian government and military officials do. And the muhjadeens do not support the taliban, they have been many public statements by them condemning the taliban and their actions. And the terrorist in the western mountains of pakistan ARE being supplied with weapons from the indian embassies in kabul and jalalabad. This is the truth with facts supporting them. Hope you acknowledge it.; February 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM
Anonymous said...: Keep the facts to yourself & face reality. What have you done to highlight terrorism in Pakistan.
Its proved today that 26/11 attacks were sponsored by Pakistani Government. I would like to hear your comments on this please...; March 14, 2010 at 3:51 AM
Captain said...: "keep the facts to your self and face reality"

if im not correct but reality is MADE UP of facts, so your statement contradicts itself

"What have you done to highlight terrorism in Pakistan."

look around my blog friend =)

"Its proved today that 26/11 attacks were sponsored by Pakistani Government. I would like to hear your comments on this please"

it is actually not proven as most of the allegations that turned up against the pakistani government in 26/11 trails has come out to be false and baseless. Even after one year, the indian government failed to even bring the supposedly "lone surviving gunman" to justice. Lack of evidence against the pakistani government's involvement in 26/11 and constant finger pointing by the indian media and government just seems to embarrass the latter in international eye. India keeps handing dossiers to pakistan concerning 26/11 but pakistan multiple times had to send the dossiers back as they contained major errors and mostly had no evidence in them.
also i would like for you to look up Karkare, it highlights the indian politician involvement in 26/11 and one last thing: the boat story from karachi doesn't make sense scientifically and also because hundreds of innocent fisherman are captured every year by both sides, what makes you think some "terrorists" can go by?
if you want more info on the scientific inaccuracy of the "boat from karachi" story claimed by indian officials then i will be happy to fill u in.
also if you want evidence on the india's incorrect dossiers then i will be happy to give that to you to.; March 14, 2010 at 4:18 AM
Anonymous said...: Officer Hemant Karkare was hit by corrupt politics but that had nothing to do with 26/11 attacks. Yes i would need to have more info on the scientific inaccuracy of the "boat from karachi" but not from Pak promoted media. I would appreciate if this site is used to bridge gaps & promote cultural heritage. I work in Dubai & i have a lot of Pakistani friends in office.We never try to discuss issues between our countries & share healthy competition in cricket. Spread the cheer & let leaders of nations do the rest. Your hate talks wont change political minds but words of peace might brighten the youth of Pakistan. Cheers..; March 14, 2010 at 4:52 AM
Captain said...: "Officer Hemant Karkare was hit by corrupt politics but that had nothing to do with 26/11 attacks."

he died in the 26/11 and circumstances around his death are still unknown and the witness reports conflict with the story told by the indian government. He was a part of the first investigation that the indian government was conducting against the hindu radicals and their growing powers. Just before the terrorist attacks a police station in pune received a tip stating that karkare will be dead in a few days.
It is clearly obvious all of this is connected.

"Yes i would need to have more info on the scientific inaccuracy of the "boat from karachi" but not from Pak promoted media."

Unfortunately, my friend pak promoted media is one of the most reliable source in the world. It points out the truth and is responsible. Unlike it's indian counterpart it uses evidence and does not make rubbish statements just to get viewership.

the scientific evidence:
otal Distance from Karachi Port to Mumbai Port = 500 nautical miles
1 nautical mile = 1,852 metres exactly
One nautical mile converts to:
* 1,852 metres (exact)
* 1.150779 mile

The speed of the troller India accused of that traveled from Karachi to Mumbai was traveling in is 10 nautical miles per hour at the max!

Lets do some simple math. We have distance, we have speed. We can get the time.

T = Distance/Speed
T = 500/10
T = 50 hrs (Just a little over 2 days)

Now here's the interesting bit.

Number of Radars along the West Indian Coast = 21 known

21 radars missed a troller that was illegally traveling in Indian waters for over 2 days? And a troller is no little fishing boat, it's visible to the naked eye. How in the world did the Indian Navy not see it? Not even 1 Indian Navy personnel on the coast or at sea managed to detect it.

"I would appreciate if this site is used to bridge gaps & promote cultural heritage. I work in Dubai & i have a lot of Pakistani friends in office."

srry friend but theres already a lot of people to do that. I like to stick with the facts not hopes.

.We never try to discuss issues between our countries & share healthy competition in cricket.

even in cricket india has been trying to isolate us. From 3/3/2009 attack on the sri lankan team to the recent ipl snub, india has done nothing but bring politics into the field.

"Spread the cheer & let leaders of nations do the rest."

i dont trust the leaders. Remember i am against the indian leadership and government; not against it people.

"Your hate talks wont change political minds but words of peace might brighten the youth of Pakistan. Cheers.."

i like to "brighten" youth of pakistan with the truth and facts, in hope that they may lead the change in future political environments.; March 14, 2010 at 3:16 PM
Anonymous said...: If any of your claims about 26/11 were true then your government would prove it to the world but this has not happened. Dont tell me this is due to corruption as this is a ind/pak issue & no politician would want to hide the facts. Regarding cricket, your team is hit by politics within the PAK board & not by India. Living outside Pakistan & talking good about it will not brighten the youth. There are well aware of the tragical world they live in. Try & get your so called higher literacy rate much higher by sponsoring some NGO's within the nation. Might be that helps. As it is the literacy rate has helped cos i do not see many posts on your articles which shows that people know the truth & do not need any more fairy tale stories. But yes your site may help terrorist groups as i am sure they themselves are not aware of these so called facts. Take care mate...; March 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM
Captain said...: "If any of your claims about 26/11 were true then your government would prove it to the world but this has not happened. Dont tell me this is due to corruption as this is a ind/pak issue & no politician would want to hide the facts."

in fact we have, why do you think the other countries and medias in the world distance themselves from 26/11 now.

"Regarding cricket, your team is hit by politics within the PAK board & not by India. "

thats another issue but the march 3 attack on the cricketers, stripping pakistan from hosting rights, and the recent ipl snub; all india's handywork.

"Living outside Pakistan & talking good about it will not brighten the youth."

if you take some time and actually look around the blog you will realize i criticize pakistan as well as praise it. the only thing stopping you from realizing that is your ignorance.

"Try & get your so called higher literacy rate much higher by sponsoring some NGO's within the nation. Might be that helps. As it is the literacy rate has helped cos i do not see many posts on your articles which shows that people know the truth & do not need any more fairy tale stories."

jealous much? lmao
by reading this lines i do recommend an english dictionary :p
and every thing i state in this blog is backed by concrete FACTS, so try to make more sense next time

"But yes your site may help terrorist groups as i am sure they themselves are not aware of these so called facts. Take care mate..."

once again very ignorant of you, i've backed up everything i have said and you haven't; that says a lot. ignorance is a bliss,isn't it? lol; March 15, 2010 at 2:24 AM
Anonymous said...: Your entire blog shows jealousy & hatred towards India & you talk about jealousy. I pitty you mate. Your concrete facts are nothing but inputs from PAK promoted media. Try & get some data from neutral sources against India like you always do from local sources. Now please dont say whole world is against Pakistan. Having said all this i really appreciate the time you have taken to fill this blog with varies information. I only wish all of this was true.; March 15, 2010 at 2:44 AM
Captain said...: once again: ignorance is a bliss for you, isn't it lol
i provided you with scientific information and you seem to ignore that and think i'm jealous? lmao

and like i said, every thing i state i back it with evidence, some from the pakistani media (one of the most reliable sources),some from international media, and some from thinktanks. Nonetheless, the information i give is very accurate. If you choose to ignore that and put your ego in front of the truth then that's your choice; i can't do nothing about it.; March 15, 2010 at 3:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Let me have just 1 article from any source apart from PAK media which talks about any Indian involvement in Afganistan or any other Indian involvement promoting terrorism. I already have 10 articles from world media against Pakistan. Imm waiting...; March 15, 2010 at 3:37 AM
Captain said...: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/02/16/can_the_intel_community_defuse_india_pakistan_tensions

exact words:

"While the U.S. media has frequently reported on Pakistani ties to jihadi elements launching attacks in Afghanistan, it has less often mentioned that India supports insurgent forces attacking Pakistan, the former intelligence official said. "The Indians are up to their necks in supporting the Taliban against the Pakistani government in Afghanistan and Pakistan," the former intelligence official who served in both countries said. "The same anti-Pakistani forces in Afghanistan also shooting at American soldiers are getting support from India. India should close its diplomatic establishments in Afghanistan and get the Christ out of there.""

ofcourse there is going to be articles concerning pakistan and terrorism as pakistan is a key ally in the war of terrorism (unlike india), the fact that india is involved in a war that has nothing to do with it just proves there is something wrong with the picture; March 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Captain said...: there you go; like you asked one article from the international media
i hope that enlightens you (telling from your previous comments it probably won't, but ehh it's worth a try lol); March 15, 2010 at 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Thats why they say little knowledge is dangerous.
Read the lats part of the same article.

UPDATE: A Washington South Asia expert, among others, wrote to dispute the allegation made by a former U.S. intelligence official cited in the piece that India is aiding the Taliban, although he said such support may be going to other anti-Pakistan insurgent groups. "It doesn't square with my observations/sources, even though lots of Pakistanis will say it is true," one said. "The Indians have - by many accounts - had a longstanding connection with Baluch nationalists/separatists in Pakistan, but these are not Taliban and they aren't active in Afghanistan fighting against US/NATO forces. So yes, India gives Pakistan grief (as Pakistan has in India), but I've seen no evidence that it comes from Pakistani or Afghan Taliban.

"As for the consulates, that's a regular refrain from Pakistani government and military," the expert added, "but there's very little US evidence to support the claims of major Indian activity in these locations, which appear to be minor operations with rather few personnel." The former U.S. intelligence officer who made the allegation said that U.S. policymakers do not require the U.S. government to collect intelligence on the issue.

This shows how you frame your facts in every article. I rest my case.; March 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM
Captain said...: the guy whose statement you put up is a washington expert, while the guy whose statement i put up is an intelligence official. the washington expert only gets a little bit of information which is also released from the intelligence official. You see the gap here? While washington expert feeds on a little bit of info which the intelligence official releases in the first place, the intelligence official knows the whole story, even the parts that are hidden from the civilians (ex. washington experts).

B4 you pick a person and believe in whatever they say while avoiding everyone else's claims, try, just try, and see who is more credible ;)

btw i have more articles that i am happy to share :p; March 16, 2010 at 3:12 AM
Anonymous said...: In that case why should readers treat your information as credible. You are just another pakistani civilian whose thoughts are a combination of hatred & emotions. If you say the sources you use are credible then my friend the same sources have many more articles against pakistan but i am sure you wont post them out here.Loving your country is not wrong & i respect every emotion but let the rest be handled by responsible authorities.; March 16, 2010 at 3:46 AM
Captain said...: "In that case why should readers treat your information as credible. You are just another pakistani civilian whose thoughts are a combination of hatred & emotions."

i've been researching and studying pakistani politics for the past 3 years and the taliban even longer. my expertise as well as mine and other abroad pakistani blogger's third-eye view on current and past affairs plays an important part bringing out the truth. And yes my blog has emotion and hatred; emotion concerning my country and hatred on the enemies of my nation.

"If you say the sources you use are credible then my friend the same sources have many more articles against pakistan but i am sure you wont post them out here."

Post them here, i will point out the inaccuracy and the biased point of view in all of them. i just proved you wrong throughout this whole discussion [scientific inaccuracy of 26/11, india supporting the taliban, foreign source that u asked for, the reliable source; the intelligence officer or government expert and the list goes on] and i'll be happy to do it again in the near future :)

"Loving your country is not wrong & i respect every emotion but let the rest be handled by responsible authorities."

when it comes to releasing the truth about a certain affair or topic there is no such thing as a responsible authority. every information i get that has facts and events backing it up i will share it with everyone. that is the whole point of blogging; pointing out information that the media fails to highlight.; March 16, 2010 at 4:27 AM
Anonymous said...: Let it remain for readers to decide who is right & wrong in this discussion. I have proved my point & i am sure the message is understood.; March 16, 2010 at 4:43 AM
Captain said...: -_-
no you haven't proved anything.
in fact, you pretty much just embarrassed yourself. :p
i mean the only message you sent out is you being ignorant of the facts presented to you and just being oblivious to the the truth
remember my friend, you can run and hide as much as you want but the truth will always catch up to u ;); March 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Anonymous said...: For now Pakistan needs to catch up & India is on a roll. Running & hiding is not our business. Might be your Kashmir notes will give you an insight of this truth.; March 17, 2010 at 12:03 AM
Captain said...: "For now Pakistan needs to catch up & India is on a roll."

on a role of what? the only thing india is headed towards is self-destruction. with the poverty rate increasing every year, as well as the gap between rich and poor, 16 SEPARATIST GROUPS fighting for independence from india, growing links between terrorism (hindu radical fanatics) and politicians, and communists controlling most of the land in the east, india is going; but not to a better place. the sad thing is, you probably didnt even know about all of this. smh

"Running & hiding is not our business. Might be your Kashmir notes will give you an insight of this truth."

explain in detail as it makes no sense whatsoever -_-; March 17, 2010 at 2:26 AM
Anonymous said...: You guys are begging for aid all over the world, your people are being killed by your own built Taliban, democracy has gone to the dogs & you still have the audacity to talk about issues in India. The very fact that i am commenting on you blog & disputing your so called truth shows that we are not among those who run & hide. In this entire discussion it is you who have claimed to be right & i have just replied to your claims. Person who is right does not need to make a propoganda about it. It is people who decide.It is again not your fault. Sometimes the culture & origin also make an impact.; March 17, 2010 at 4:31 AM
Captain said...: "You guys are begging for aid all over the world,"

we'd rather take aid then starve our people to death like u guys.

"your people are being killed by your own built Taliban"

were u born stupid or is this just your ignorance taking over? the taliban was created in afghanistan by the CIA-ISI to bring stability to the war-devastated region. know ur history before you say something stupid like that smh

"democracy has gone to the dogs & you still have the audacity to talk about issues in India. "

r u talking about democracy in india? suppressing 16 different ethnic groups; denying them their freedom, politicians doing whatever the hell they want including all unlawful activities, conducting genocides that are sponsored by political forces, making farmers commit suicide,because of all the debt you put them in, and the list goes on! india is undoubtedly the worst so called "democracy" in the world. see the difference between political situations in india and Pakistan is that pakistanis don't put up with injustice while indians slit each other's throats rather fight injustice.

"The very fact that i am commenting on you blog & disputing your so called truth shows that we are not among those who run & hide."

and thats y u decided to post under anonymous? lmao
your not disputing but creating mischief. every point you made i have proved it false and every point i made i have backed it with undoubted evidence and yet you think your right. that not disputing; that's disturbing.

"In this entire discussion it is you who have claimed to be right & i have just replied to your claims."

B U L L S H I T
everything you asked for i have provided you with [scientific inaccuracy of 26/11, india supporting the taliban, foreign source that u asked for, the reliable source; the intelligence officer or government expert and the list goes on], but none of your claims made sense and none of your claims had any accuracy in them.

"Person who is right does not need to make a propoganda about it. It is people who decide."

that's and idiotic statement, the whole point of a propaganda (btw that's how your SUPPOSED to spell it) is to spread the TRUTH and whats the point of truth if you don't share it? And truth is not decided by people, it's still the truth if they like it or not.

"It is again not your fault. Sometimes the culture & origin also make an impact."

yea, the fact that india is next to my country makes a big impact. The fact that we have to be neighbors to an idiotic, radical, irresponsible, and immature country is a real big impact. smh seriously dude i think you need to stop living in a fairytale world and start to realize the truth as it is, or u'll always make a fool of yourself like ur doing right now.; March 17, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Anonymous said...: My friend writing long stories does not prove anything out here. Just to clarify some points.

1.I did not ask for any scientific innacuracy theory for 26/11 becos i know the fact. You did that since you had it readily available in another pakistani blog which you have just copy pasted.

2.Regarding an international source proving INDIA promoting terrorism, your article just had claims but nothing to back it up.Even Indian intelligence experts are saying Pak is promoting terrorism but you guys still ask for proof.So dont tell me i need to trust claims made by intelligence experts.

3.Lets leave democracy aside, cos both of us know where we stand. You will still take years & millions of international aid to match our so called worst democracy.

4. For me to realise the truth you still need to research for some more years as nothing was convincing enough which you feel are facts.

Disturbing are not my comments but your entire blog which is only spreading hatred against India when the youth of both countries are trying to reason out & keep aside the differences.; March 18, 2010 at 12:20 AM
Captain said...: "My friend writing long stories does not prove anything out here."

hmm i wonder how journalists feel about that lmao
r u serious? do u not know that we live in an era where media can and does control the entire world

"I did not ask for any scientific innacuracy theory for 26/11 becos i know the fact. You did that since you had it readily available in another pakistani blog which you have just copy pasted."

yes you did your exact words: "Yes i would need to have more info on the scientific inaccuracy of the "boat from karachi" but not from Pak promoted media." and i it doesn't matter where it came from it makes sense scientifically because i ran it through some college professors in manhattan.

"Regarding an international source proving INDIA promoting terrorism, your article just had claims but nothing to back it up.Even Indian intelligence experts are saying Pak is promoting terrorism but you guys still ask for proof.So dont tell me i need to trust claims made by intelligence experts."

of course indian intelligence will say that; it's an easy way to hide the actual separatist group that might have actually caused this and avoid a big collapse of the indian state. and the pak government is still asking for proof because you still haven't handed over anything yet. all india handed over is some false claims with no evidence and that's it. the fault lies within your own government. also look at the karkare factor. im sure you'll be quite suprised (but still as arrogant smh)

"Lets leave democracy aside, cos both of us know where we stand."

im pretty sure my last comment made you shut up in this issue; just admit it instead of avoiding it.

"You will still take years & millions of international aid to match our so called worst democracy."

you have a lower literacy rate then us and are much more poorer; why the hell would we wanna catch up to that? -_-
it's proven that it's easier to start a business in pakistan than in india. and the way we improved our economy since the past 11 years; you guys wouldn't be able to do it in a life time.

"For me to realise the truth you still need to research for some more years as nothing was convincing enough which you feel are facts."

it's not my fault that you are not driven by evidence but by emotion, neglect, and ignorance. But like you said Its not your fault. Sometimes the culture & origin also make an impact! :p

"Disturbing are not my comments but your entire blog which is only spreading hatred against India when the youth of both countries are trying to reason out & keep aside the differences."

india is not a very lovable country, if you must know india is disliked by all it's neighbors because of it's continuing disturbance and interfering in other countries affairs. you swear you an upcoming superpower but you have no clue how off you are. and as far as the youth is concerned i take it as a part of my duty to inform them why we have a separate nation and why like general kayani put it; india will always be our #1 enemy.; March 18, 2010 at 1:00 AM
Anonymous said...: India is disliked by its neighbours since they are not able to catch up with its progress.
When you grow there are many waiting to put you
down. i dont think that affects us much. We have achieved international mileage through our booming economy & no one can deny that. Even after such a huge population & so many issues like you mentioned, we are still ahead of our neighbours. All this even after having a low literacy rate like you mentioned. Try checking with your Manhattan professor whats the reason behind this & even he might give you false hopes if he is Pakistani.; March 18, 2010 at 1:26 AM
Captain said...: "India is disliked by its neighbours since they are not able to catch up with its progress.
When you grow there are many waiting to put you
down. i dont think that affects us much."

Your theory (which is complete emotion and no statistic) is flawed. china has a much better economy and a much better standard of living then india; then why doesn't china get alot with india? india "freed" bangladesh, then why does bangladesh today have a better relationship with pakistan then india? i'm telling you; you are missing a big piece of the puzzle, i tried to give you the piece but u just ignored it.

"We have achieved international mileage through our booming economy & no one can deny that. Even after such a huge population & so many issues like you mentioned, we are still ahead of our neighbours."

once again china is way ahead of you; in both living standards and economy. matter fact even population!

"All this even after having a low literacy rate like you mentioned."

which supports my claim of india's growing gap between rich and poor.

"Try checking with your Manhattan professor whats the reason behind this & even he might give you false hopes if he is Pakistani."

first of all the professor is caucasian, second of all india's growing economy doesn't mean squat! with the poverty increasing everyday, indian agriculture dieing off, and with the growing gap between the rich and poor the indian economy can function only for a limited time. if you don't think that is true then see for yourself why northeastern india is controlled by communists. once again, the economic accomplishments achieved by pakistan in the past 11 years can never be achieved by india.; March 18, 2010 at 3:29 AM
Anonymous said...: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_34/b3948401.htm

This link explains the same thoughts expressed by you but in a much sensible manner. This growing competition is the reason for China's hatred towards India.; March 18, 2010 at 5:33 AM
Captain said...: "This link explains the same thoughts expressed by you but in a much sensible manner. This growing competition is the reason for China's hatred towards India."

wow u really think that's the real problem? that makes no sense in historic and economic values. china has a much stable economy and much less problems then india and in no way,shape, or form is india even close to becoming even competition to china.; March 19, 2010 at 3:04 AM

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